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FlyingTurkeyFarm · Mar 30, 2019 7:01 PM

Hey everyone,

I just created this Ex Pro App stud and I love the small delicate spots throughout his coat! I was wondering if anyone could tell me what they are called (if anything) or what causes them? I havent had an app come out like him before.

His genes are EE Aa CC nd2nd2 gg FF SstyS PP LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+ WF: None, so nothing crazy that I'm familiar with. Is it a product of the +/+ or something in the Lp genes?

Thanks!!

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LEAcres · Mar 30, 2019 7:04 PM

It's varnish. It's a hidden gene that all Appaloosa have..

bluchrystals · Mar 30, 2019 7:12 PM

By the time he's done he'll probably be almost gray.

LEAcres · Mar 30, 2019 7:15 PM

One of my boys I'm doing a gif on as he varnishes.. I'm planning on continuing it until he ages out of the game

HayesStable · Mar 30, 2019 7:23 PM

Just to clarify, not all appys have varnish. It can be recessive just like other genes. When snowflake was for sale on server two i found a couple horses who were VV vs VrnVrn or VrnV. V is recessive, Vrn is Varnish, and Vsn is snowflake. But as said it is a hidden gene so you can't test for it. I only know about it from snowflake in the RGS. So you can breed appys with recessive varnish and they won't white out completely :)

HayesStable · Mar 30, 2019 7:28 PM

There are excellent examples if you search for horses with LP! The first three horses are 28-29 and yet still have vibrant coloring :)
https://www.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=any&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&stallion=1&mare=1&gelding=1&spayedmare=1&bty=1&lined=lined&foundation=1&name=&name_lm=not+like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=221755&owner_lm=not+like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d3=&d2=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=1&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&ice15=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

bluchrystals · Mar 30, 2019 7:29 PM

Hayes, have you posted the pictures on anything besides chat? I went to look at them the other day and I thought you had two lists of pictures up, I only found one there.

HayesStable · Mar 30, 2019 7:32 PM

The links for the pictures is in the chat room description in the top right corner (if you're on a desktop, not sure where it is for mobile). Here are both of them :)

VV Snowflakes
http://i66.tinypic.com/2sacpip.png
Regular Varnish
http://i63.tinypic.com/2ilkkds.png

LEAcres · Mar 30, 2019 7:35 PM

Oh wow! I didn't know that no varnish was possible! Thank you for clarifying!

HayesStable · Mar 30, 2019 7:37 PM

Yep :) That's why i started the "Varnish Experiment"! I wanted to see how much each variation of the varnish gene whited out. I wanted to see if VV horses kept all their color or if they still lost a little without turning completely white. It will take several seasons but i plan on updating the images every season! I might do what you did and make the images into a gif!

bluchrystals · Mar 30, 2019 7:38 PM

Thank you. I'm on a mobile, but next time I'll switch to desktop site.

LEAcres · Mar 30, 2019 7:41 PM

I haven't been able to look at the current results since I'm on mobile :(

But I just got a new phone that lets me switch between desktop and mobile (my old phone, once I was on desktop I couldn't get it back to mobile so it stayed on mobile)

bluchrystals · Mar 30, 2019 7:42 PM

It looks like heavy varnish can either be two copies of the gene varnish...or het snowflake. I've been saving heavily varnished creates because I want to get a hom stud to test them against. Still waiting on snowflake to come up in the sale.

Wolvevenfrost · Mar 30, 2019 7:47 PM

Oh I just saved a bunch of pictures of my 2 year olds until they age out if the game! I can't wait to see the results. I think I'm doing it with 75 or so horses?

Eh no, I lied, it's 64 horses. But still it's a lot of horses I'm doing it with. I can't wait to see the results! Wait, I just said that? Well thats cause I can't, haha!

LEAcres · Mar 30, 2019 7:50 PM

I tried doing it with all of my apps but it became too much

Wolvevenfrost · Mar 30, 2019 7:53 PM

I have way too many apps to do that either so I just decided to do it with my 2 year olds. It would have overwhelmed me very quickly if I did all....ehhhhuh-huh. :-S

FlyingTurkeyFarm · Mar 30, 2019 8:17 PM

This was awesome, thanks so much everyone! I'll have to keep an eye out for varnish on my other apps and watch as it pops up as they age :)

Jessj · Mar 30, 2019 9:34 PM

This guy varnished nicely so far lol. Has way more spots popping up

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Ammit · Apr 1, 2019 5:18 AM

All appies will varnish. Varnishing is just part of the leopard gene. Some have genes that suppress or promote it.

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